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Michigan a Top 5 Team? Will The Voters Ever Learn?

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By the look of things, Michigan is poised to be ranked in the pre-season CFB Top 5. Given the pansy-assity ’strength’ of the Big 10, the ranking nearly equates to a free ticket to the BCS title game if whomever is ranked above them (probably USC and LSU) takes a tumble.

If you scroll your mental DVR back to December of 2006, you’ll remember the endless debates and infighting over who more deserved an opportunity to play Ohio State in the BCS National Championship game. On one hand, you had Michigan, who was 11-1 at that time, fresh off a loss to Ohio State in “The Game.” On the other, you had Florida, the SEC Champion, who was 12-1, fresh off a victory over Arkansas in the SEC CG.

In retrospect, the debate seems silly even before one considers the eventual outcome of the two Big 10 “powers” in their respective bowl games. Michigan was not a conference champion. Their strength of schedule was not even close to that of the Gators. Nor had they maintained a late season winning streak. They didn’t have as many wins as Florida, and they’d already played the same team they hoped to go up against again. On paper, it would appear obvious to any dispassionate observer that Michigan had shot their load and squandered their chance.

But some pundits were impressed by Michigan enough to campaign for the Wolverines to remain entrenched at #2 and be given an invitation to Glendale. They were titillated by Lloyd Carr’s lumbering marauders, even accounting for their loss to Ohio State. No one else had managed to score 39 points against the Buckeyes, even in defeat. The debate raged but in the end, the BCS finally did something right: via a combination of human voters and computer formulae, the Gators were given the opportunity to play Ohio State.

Lloyd Carr In some respects, splitting the two Big 10 teams off such that they had to face powerful out-of-conference opponents provided for predictable results. Florida went on to smash the Buckeyes while USC obliterated and humiliated Michigan. No one, including yours truly, expected the Gators to win by nearly four touchdowns, but I had pegged them as an 8-point victor, while the father of Gatorpilot predicted a 14-point Florida margin. Everyone, however, expected USC to rout the Wolverines — and they did, winning 32-18 in a game that was far more lopsided than the final tally showed.

Afterwards, Kirk Herbstreit made the infamous comment that “Michigan and Ohio State set the Big Ten back 10 years.”

Or did they? Judging by the lean toward putting Michigan in the Top 5 for the upcoming season, it looks like the CFB institution hasn’t learned its lesson.

In 2007, Michigan returns Chad Henne, Mike Hart, and Mario Manningham. All top-drawer names according to ESPN… and players who couldn’t do diddly when they went up against Ohio State and Southern California! But that’s okay! “DOMINATING DEFENSE” is what Michigan hung their hat on in 2006 — so says CSTV in their ‘07 Michigan Preview, causing much laughter in the deep south — so Michigan should be fine in 2007. Oops, no, the Wolverines are only returning six starters on that side of the ball.

So what gives? Did Michigan magically get a hell of a lot better despite losing Steve Breaston, their two best linebackers, and starters on the defensive line and at cornerback?

And, did I miss something? Was that ever truly a Top 10 offense? USC didn’t just expose them. They lit ‘em up like napalm on the sun.

No, Michigan didn’t get better since then. But their schedule didn’t get any worse, either. In fact it got a lot easier, if such a thing is possible, and that lines them up for a BCS appearance if they can beat a couple of decent teams before January. Remember, this is the entire schedule. The Big 10 doesn’t play a conference championship game. Behold:

Cupcakes. Pushovers. Tediously average teams. They make up the bulk of Michigan’s schedule.

If you count Ohio State (who certainly have no business finding themselves in the Top 25 to start the season, but weirder things have happened in the ESPN/ABC-dominated college football landscape) the Wolverines have four “tough” games in ‘07. Michigan gets the Buckeyes at home in Ann Arbor, which always helps, along two of their three “legitimate top 25″ opponents. Notre Dame will make the short trip for their usual whipping, too. (Sorry, I’m not going to buy into any Notre Dame hype this year, thank you very much. I was tempted to label them “Pushover” and give them a pink skirt, but decided to be generous with the “overrated” label.)

Lloyd Carr Seriously; do you think Florida, even with a depleted defense and a young sophomore quarterback starting his first game in September, wouldn’t take that schedule and clean up like Al Horford making a booty call in Atlanta?

If you told me the Gators were starting in the Top 5 playing that lineup, I’d tell you to book your tickets now for New Orleans, because Florida’s going back to the BCS title game.

But unfortunately, the Gators play in the real world. They play LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, and FSU. If they make it to Atlanta they’ll play the SEC West champion. Sure, Florida has their share of mandated cupcakes too, but make no mistake about it, it is, like last year, a far tougher schedule.

So ’round and ’round we go. How many times must Lloyd Carr and the rest of the Big 10 lay an egg before voters will cut them off from the pre-season cheesecake?

And how is this, by any stretch of the imagination, a Top 5 team? Or even a Top 10 team?

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“Seriously; do you think Florida, even with a depleted defense and a young sophomore quarterback starting his first game in September, wouldn’t take that schedule and clean up like Al Horford making a booty call in Atlanta?”

Genius…pure genius.

PS: Great post, I totally agree with you and am angered at the lack of respect for the SEC.

I think Michigan looks good “on paper” but if you take their notorious ability to underachieve they won’t be in national championship contention anyways. They are lucky to get Oregon at home.

But Michigan is a good team. I think they could go 6-2 or 5-3 within the SEC.

Michigan has been over rated ever since Lloyd Carr showed up. Nothing new this year. No way are they top 5.

I think the Big 10 bashing is a bit overdone, actually. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a huge UF fan, SEC fan, and Gator Grad, but the conference that can’t count is not without it’s strengths. In bowl games I know UF has lost to Iowa, and Mich State. Last year Penn State (an “upper middling” B10 team) beat UT, and Wisc defeated Arkansas. I think the CFB landscape changes significantly from year to year and decade to decade. Michigan recruits very well, they have, similar to the Gators, a deep well of pretty solid talent, and have a history of being a solid football team. I’ve heard the story a thousand times how the SEC is faster than the B10, and how the SEC is such a tougher conference, and how if this team played here and the other there and so on and so forth… I think that the overall player speed in each conference is near equal. From top to bottom, I’d agree that the SEC is tougher, but a year ago tOSU played through (and dominated most of their games) a weak B10 schedule. Michigan defeated Vandy by a more solid margin than UF did, does that make Michigan better than UF? No. You can’t compare based even on head to head competition. Each week in CFB it’s a changing landscape, with some teams actually progressing under coaching (like Vandy, UF) and some teams maintaining or even dropping off after playing lighter schedules (like Mich, tOSU?). In the MNC game, UF obviously destroyed tOSU and essentially dominated them in every facet of the game, so last year, I think there’s no question that UF beat tOSU in one game. UF’s O-Line and entire team, it seemed, came together and finally clicked at the right time. At the same time, it seemed tOSU put their jerseys on their band members and sent them out to “play.” In retrospect, UF looked very average in many of their games during the season, but played well at the end of the season, while tOSU played very well for most of the season until the end, where they were “exposed.” Same with Michigan.
Is Mich a top 5 team? Quite possibly. UMich has a good number of returning starters on offense and likely enough talent to put in on defense to not have a huge drop off.
With all that said (carefully laid out in an incoherent ramble)…I don’t think that Oregon or Penn State are top 25 teams. Notre Dame is traditionally overrated, and this year they will be easier to beat than usual…next year they’ll be better, however because the overall talent base is growing there like Weis’ belly. Wisc and tOSU are the only legit top 25 teams on Michigan’s schedule this year, which is why they have a shot at going undefeated in the B10. Is unbeaten in the B10 or even 1 loss worthy of top 5 or top 10? Maybe. It’s quite unpredictable, really. You can’t base next year soully on last year, and you can’t say that Mich and tOSU are bad teams because they got hammered in 1 game at the end of the year. Well, you can, I guess, but I think it’s inaccurate and you’ll be proven wrong over the course of the next few seasons…

A buddy of mine lives in Michigan and went to that Vandy game (he’s a Gator Alum) and he said the game was much closer than it looked. Michigan finally got a TD late in the 3rd to give themselves some breathing room and then another with 2 minutes left in the game to make it look like an easier win than it was. Michigan expected to pound Vandy and get their backups some playing time but found themselves in a struggle. And with starting a brand new QB in a season opener Vandy was very conservative on offense.

I still think Michigan goes 6-2 or 5-3 in the East. So if they win their OOC games that’s still a 9 or 10 win season. Michigan’s problems are more than talent, they are as much about scheme and coaching. They couldn’t take the pounding in a gruelling SEC schedule.

Any team playing Michigan knows exactly what the Wolverines will try to do on offense. You can’t get away with that in the SEC. You can’t dictate to SEC defenses, you have to selectively attack weaknesses and trick your opponent. Michigan does neither of the above. They just run their offense and if you can stop it or they aren’t executing . . . they are screwed.

What Mich may or may not do in the SEC is somewhat irrelevant to the original topic started by Gatorpilot. If the general topic is that Mich shouldn’t be ranked in the top 5, and CFB rankings happen to favor BCS teams that lose the fewest number of games overall, then I’m thinking that Mich has a pretty good chance of being in the top 5 at the end of the year (pre bowl game) when you consider the players returning and their schedule. I think that in any given year a top tier team from any non-SEC conference stuffed into the SEC East has a chance of losing 2 or more games (i.e. going 6-2 or 5-3) because UF, UGA, and UT and maybe soon to be USCe are just difficult to beat in any given year…(plus you likely get stuck with an LSU or Auburn/Alabama from the west which could be toss-ups).

And yeah, KG, I recall the Mich Vandy game too (watched on TV) and Mich had a tough time with them, I was glad that Vandy made them work for it and didn’t disgrace the SEC in that game…but the final score is what the pollsters often remember, just like UF got beaten soundly by Auburn last year (if you only look at the score). Of course the game was really a 3 point loss with some interesting officiating…

I’ll say this and it may seem incongruent but I think PRESEASON polls should be based on how many wins and losses you think at team will have at the end. Thus Michigan has a solid claim on a top 5 ranking (as WVU did last year). But by the end of the year the rankings should be as much a factor as how good the team is as its record.

But before the season it’s impossible to tell who will fly and who will flame out. Nobody thought that Rutgers or South Florida would be a tough game for WVU prior to the year by by the end we can take that into account. But predicting wins and losses and then trying to guess which teams will be surprises and dissapointments before the year begins is impossible.

So I think Michigan can get a deserved top 5 ranking but at the same time if Michigan is tied with a team from another conference or if there is any debate I could easily swing my favorite as to who accomplished the most regardless of who started higher in the polls in the beginning of the year.

And in that regard last year the system worked IMO.

When is the last time Michigan lost to an SEC team? If you can’t remember its ok… because it was in the 90’s to Tennessee. Fact of the matter is Michigan is stacked this year and has a strong schedule to boot. Bash the Big 10 all you want, but remember that Wisc. beat Arkansas and Penn State beat Tennessee in their respective bowl games last year.

I am not saying that Michigan will beat USC for the NC, but they are definately a legitimate top 5 team.

whats funny is the big ten actually won the heads up series against the SEC in there bowl games last year, penn state beat tennessee who florida only beat by one, wisconsin who was the third team in the big ten beat the second team in the sec ,Arkansas, the only sec team to beat a big ten team was florida vs. ohio state. and what did usc do to arkansas as well???? certainly wasnt that bad when michigan played them. get over it the south lost the civil war, just because you think your football is better doesnt mean the confederacy will rise again. yall had trouble beating vandy last year, what did michigan do to them last year???? oh yeah thats what I thought. Notre Dame is over rated but didnt they beat tennesee 2 years ago? how is that possible they are in the SEC??? OH YEAH and whats Michigans all time record vs. the SEC???? I believe its like 28 wins and somewhere like 14 losses, thats just off the top of my head but im pretty sure its around there. What happend when Michigan played Florida in the bowl game a few years back???? oH YEAH! MICHIGAN BEAT FLORIDA you stupid hick

wow sorry I was wrong on the all time vs. SEC just looked it up and its 15 and 4 …Im sure the source is off by a few games. give or take two wins or two losses……that doesnt seem very good to me…if your the SEC??? oh yeah not only did UM beat michigan in a bowl game not to long ago didnt FREAKING MICHIGAN STATE!!! how pathetic are u if u claim a team to be so easy yet your team lost to them. pathetic. again how is tennesee on the verge of USC like status when they lost to a team sec fans think are top 25 worthy in penn state???? Yeah and the SEC may be tougher overall but dont forget we actually go out and play non conference games to make up for it, out of the state of michigan, oregon and notre dame arent the greatest but that certainly makes up for 2 teams we are lacking in the big ten. when is the last time UF traveled out of the state of florida for a non conference game??? oh wait they havent! besides fsu the toughest ooc game they played was MIAMI and they got killed both times they played them. and you wanna talk about ballsy scheduling OHIO STATE played a home and away with texas, and after this year have a home and away with USC how is that for the real world????? ignorance and stupidity.

Wow, is someone still upset about getting their ass whooped in a bowl game a few years back? Too bad we can’t add Florida to our schedule for another cupcake game. Florida is a joke.

LOL, Michigan has been absolutely mauling SEC teams over the last 8 years, including the sorry Gators!

Maybe you should try beating us sometime before you open you mouth. Michigan is UNDEFEATED against the Florida Gators. Your school, program, and fans are a complete joke in college football. BTW, has Florida ever gone undefeated?

last time I looked Michigan beat Florida (Grossman) head to head when they played…in Florida I believe….spin it any way you want, there’s not a lot of difference between the the two schools

Be glad….. very glad…. that you didnt play our Gators in 2006!!!!! They would have wiped your ass!

ok mich fans. tell us how this team is somehow better this year. they gave up 70+ points in their final two games and were SLOW compared to Southern Cal. did they magically get faster? LOL

henne might be a pretty good quarterback but this team can’t keep up with real fast squads. i’d rank them 7-10 and that’s before going up against the best of the SEC, pac10 etc

Oh wow . . . Notre Dame beat a 5-6 Tennessee team 2 years ago. Is that the kind of brilliant factoid Michigan fans throw into these kinds of arguments?

That’s right, Wisconsin and Penn State won bowl games last year. And that would be impressive if they were the cream of the Big 10. However they aren’t, Michigan and Ohio State are the best of the Big Ten and in their bowl games they lost by a combined score of 73-32.

Nobody is saying the Big 10 is worse than the Big 12. People are saying it’s not a deep conference. That there are only a few top teams. Thus when those teams look better than they have in a decade and then go out and get embarassed people wonder what happened to the Big Ten.

If you think the Big 10 hasn’t taken a HUGE loss in respect . . . you guys wouldn’t be taking this so personally coming up with stats on how Michigan dominated teams all the way back when Army was a national power. Your commissioner wouldn’t be looking like a dork in the media claiming the Big 10 can’t compete because of its higher “academic standards”. Etc, etc.

Michigan won’t go undefeated. The only time the Wolvies do well is when expectations are low. In a way they are much like Tennessee in that regard. With the high expectations they’ll crack under the pressure. Come back when you guys have proven something on the football field. The way I score it the last game Michigan played was an embarassing, lopsided butt whoopin by Southern Call. 0 and 2 in your last two games impresses me not. Talk smack when you have something to smack about. Win a big game first.

ok the mich fans have completely and totally lost it. no chance in hell is that a team that is ready to go run up against the best in the country. the article is dead on, this “maize and blue” crew is stuck in slow-motion. they can fake it through the big 10 sked but not in a bcs bowl game. if they do make a championship bowl they will be embarassed

What makes Florida’s schedule so much tougher than Michigan’s? Taking a similar line as you took to the Michigan schedule, here is a look at Florida’s:
Tennessee - Top 25 (Swamp)
Auburn - Top 25 (Swamp)
LSU - Top 25 (@ LSU)
Georgia - Top 25 (@ UGA)
Florida State - Rival / Average (Swamp)
Kentucky - Average
South Carolina - Average
Mississippi - Pushover
Vanderbilt - Pushover
Western Kentucky - Cupcake
Troy - Cupcake
Florida Atlantic - Cupcake

That is 4 Top 25 teams (2 at home, 2 away), 3 average teams, 2 pushovers and 3 cupcakes. Michigan has 4 Top 25 teams, 2 average teams, 1 overrated team, 2 pushovers and 3 cupcakes. Looks pretty similar to me.

ok spunky, let’s take a look at what you got and we’ll correct you where you go off course.

Tennessee - Top 25 (Swamp)
Correction: Top 20

Auburn - Top 25 (Swamp)
Correction: Top 15

LSU - Top 25 (@ LSU)
Correction: Top 5

Georgia - Top 25 (@ UGA)
This is accurate

Florida State - Rival / Average (Swamp)
Correction: Top 25 (Plus they = Blood Rival…… I gave you credit for Ohio State being a blood rival despite the fact that they’re not expected to be special this year)

Kentucky - Average
Correction: One of the best offenses in the SEC in 2007, probably also Top 25 if not Top 20

South Carolina - Average
Do you even watch college football? Spurrier has made them into a contender already, they are easily Top 25 and have the #2 toughest sked in the country, plus it is an away game, this is a tough game to win, they also should get blood rival status because they have a gator head coach

Mississippi - Pushover
Correct

Vanderbilt - Pushover
Correct

Western Kentucky - Cupcake
Correct

Troy - Cupcake
Correct

Florida Atlantic - Cupcake
Correct

You also forgot to add the SEC West champion who Florida will have to face if they win the east… probably will be LSU or Auburn again!!!

Now you see the diff like the pictures in the post… florida sked = drag racer mich sked = moped…… hahaha

I’m a huge Gator fan here, but I think we need to recognize that last year we were better than OSU and who knows about Mich. All that matters is what happens this year and anyone who doesn’t respect the top 4 teams coming out of the Big 10 will find themselves coming up short in any bowl game against them.

Gatorstats, in some ways I agree. Of course those Big 10 teams deserve respect (Michigan should be the best of them) and I would say Michigan is a Top 15 team at this point. That is a far cry from putting them in the Top 5. The five best college football teams in the country are a galaxy removed from teams 6-10, which is another galaxy away from 11-15. It is just insulting to my intelligence to watch how slow Michigan was last year and think they’ll somehow speed up over the offseason and have SEC speed this fall.

The best teams in the country have speed AND power. Michigan has power on D but couldn’t touch USC’s receivers. They are one-dimensional on offense and I don’t think they call a creative gameplan on offense or defense. Like most Big 10 teams they don’t want to be taken out of their zone coverage which gives teams which like to man up a big advantage on them if they can successfully do so.

I just don’t see them being in the Top 5 at the end of the year and if they’re in the Top 10 I’d be surprised too. This is a 2-3 loss team. Considering how easy their schedule is that means there’s no way they can be considered a Top 5 or 10 team.

Michigan sucks, bunch of pansies trying to play with the big boys. That’s why the Big 10 doesn’t have a championship game, so they can run off to the Rose bowl and hide from the SEC by playing a Pac-10 team - then (in true Michigan fashion) expect to be ranked high since they have a large fan base. OSU and Michigan suck and if they played games week after week like in the SEC, they would be decimated by the end of the season.

Here’s a good question, ever hear of any Big 10 players getting hurt during the season? Not hardly.

And the Penn State/Tennessee and Arkansas/Wisconsin games? Arkansas just played the best team in the country (Florida) in the SEC game and had many players hurt (including Darren McFadden). How many players were hurt on Wisconsin’s side?

And Tennesse made a mistake and let Penn State score, remember that PSU’s defense won the game- not the offense. If the third best Big 10 team takes a mistake to beat a middle-road SEC team, the point still stands.

But OSU has Akron and Youngstown on their schedule this year, so by week 8 most SEC teams will have one loss and the boys in the Big 10 will be undefeated.

Flaming intermission:

GP, your original post is essentially a flame of the B10 and Mich, and with the history UF and the SEC have going against them (if you don’t overweigh the UF/OSU game) things are near even. People can talk about speed all you want, but UMich’s corners are not running 5.5 40’s. Mich will probably be the best team in the B10 this year and prove you wrong in your preseason ranking assessment.

Continue flaming below:

See-Dub…

“And Tennesse made a mistake and let Penn State score, remember that PSU’s defense won the game- not the offense. If the third best Big 10 team takes a mistake to beat a middle-road SEC team, the point still stands.”

Mistakes are part of the game. You act as if this turnover in the PSU game were some sort of unforced error. If UT won this game, you’d be singing the praises of the SEC. However, since they lost, it was some kind of an aberration. Basically, UT Wins = SEC is awesome. UT loses = UT is a middle of the road SEC team…amazing. I dont know how anyone of can argue your logic.
Amazingly, this middle of the road SEC team that had UF beat earlier in the sason and chokled it away must have regressed by the end of the season, because there is no way a team that gave UF a run for its money should have lost to a slow Big10 team…

“But OSU has Akron and Youngstown on their schedule this year, so by week 8 most SEC teams will have one loss and the boys in the Big 10 will be undefeated.”

Anyone outside of UT or Auburn calling out Big10 scheduling is simply delusional. I would love to see UF go to Austin or the Colisseum, but that wont happen..Western Florida Tech or the Citadel or Buffalo or any other Florida Directional School had an opening that all of the SEC East was
dying to fill.

Let’s not make excuses for Tennessee or Arkansas. Both lost; Arkansas outgained Wisconsisn by over 200 rushing yards and held Wisconsin to negative rushing yards and *still lost the game.* That is astonishing. Meanwhile Penn State has a history of doing well in bowl games while Tennessee has a rather sorry recent history of lousy success in the post-season. Let’s not take anything away from the Big 10 for winning those games.

Still, had either Arky or Tennessee managed not to screw it all up (the way that Arkansas lost was particularly humiliating given it was a coaching rather than talent loss) and the Big 10 was a net minus instead of plus against the SEC in bowl games, we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation.

I was and am still disappointed at those two teams for their lack of ability to represent the SEC. Alabama? Not so much — coaching staff change, interim coach, and a pretty good opponent net out to a loss there. The SEC’s best dominated the Big 10’s best, and I’ll add Notre Dame to the B10 list because the B10 likes to formally include Notre Dame whenever the Irish are doing well. So take the vinegar with the sugar, B10 fans.

Gatorpilot…

You couldnt be any further from the truth. There isnt a Big10 fan out there that will claim Notre Dame as their own. All of us enjoy Notre Dame’s mediocrity…not just those of you from the land of footbaw footbaw footbaw. Again…venture outside of the south for a little different perspective on the game of football, you might learn something.

As for Arky and UT, damn shame we dont use boxscores to dictate outcomes of games. I mean if we did, LSU would have won its game against UF this year right?

I’ll be the first to admit that the SEC is a great conference, but you can only stick out your chest so far until one of nipples explodes.

Hey, I think we mostly agree, Herringbone. Like I said, I don’t make excuses for those two SEC teams. They let the conference down. We’re pissed. We’re a dysfunctional little family down here in the south… those losers are bowl game mulligans at best and at worst… well, we’ll keep that to ourself. They’re ugly little brothers, but they’re OUR little brothers. I’m sure you can understand.

Despite the fact that I’m a huge Michigan, I’ve always respected, even liked, Florida football. However, since the winning the NC last year, some of their fans act as if U-F is Gods gift to college football.

The bowl matchups between Big 10 and SEC teams in the last 5-10 years have been almost even with mostly close and competitive games.

But the point is not that the top 4 or 5 of each league are even its the next 4 or 5 where the big separation occurs.

Now this is my first post here and let it be known I’m an OSU Alumni who was in Glendale (great atmosphere, I would have enjoyed my team coming to play but thats another story). Now, I will agree there are more quality teams in the SEC, but its a very slim edge. In any year, LSU, UF, Tenn, Georgia, Ark, or Aub can all be very good, but you can say the same about OSU, UM, Wisc., Penn State, Iowa. Just as much as people say UM would lose 2 games in the SEC, I don’t see any SEC teams having a cake walk if they have to visit Wisc., Penn State, and OSU and play UM at home. Let it be known I think these are by far the two strongest conferences, oh and by the way an interesting fact I think keeps getting left out of a lot of convos. UM beat ND by the same amount LSU did. UM beat ND at ND while LSU did it pretty much at home. Just a little more food for thought

Anyone who uses an outback bowl where Zook was coaching the Gators as the measuring stick is playing with a few cards short of a full deck. In that game Zook single handedly lost it. Going for 2 and missing in the first half. Then down 8 (not 7 thanks to the aforementioned botch) and driving on Michigan he has a true freshman throwing the ball to his (previously) heisman candidate QB. Ball intercepted, game over.

And OSU fan. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Sounds like excuses. Win the game next time then you can talk about how great your conference is.

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