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	<title>Comments on: Why this Guy Cost the Gators a Bid</title>
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		<title>by: Gator Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145297</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 22:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Remember how good he looked at the beginning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember how good he looked at the beginning?
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		<title>by: Vince Gagliano</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145238</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145238</guid>
					<description>Okay, I acquiesce.  It's one season, and Donovan had to find SOME way to gauge the talent he had this year.

But until then, he isn't cracking my starting lineup until he works on:

A. Sharing the rock (just 3 assists/40)
B. Creating turnovers (0.7 steals/40)
C. Shooting at least 80% from the line (71% last year, actually something all the freshman can work on)

If he can do those things, I like a lineup featuring Lucas at point, Calathes (&quot;good&quot; at 1 through 3)at shooting guard, Parsons (&quot;good&quot;) at small forward, Eloy Vargas (who should beat out &quot;average&quot; Dan Werner) at PF, and Speights/Kadji at C.

But if he consistently plays like he did last year, he's benched.  

Shouldn't be that big of a problem, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I acquiesce.  It&#8217;s one season, and Donovan had to find SOME way to gauge the talent he had this year.</p>
<p>But until then, he isn&#8217;t cracking my starting lineup until he works on:</p>
<p>A. Sharing the rock (just 3 assists/40)<br />
B. Creating turnovers (0.7 steals/40)<br />
C. Shooting at least 80% from the line (71% last year, actually something all the freshman can work on)</p>
<p>If he can do those things, I like a lineup featuring Lucas at point, Calathes (&#8221;good&#8221; at 1 through 3)at shooting guard, Parsons (&#8221;good&#8221;) at small forward, Eloy Vargas (who should beat out &#8220;average&#8221; Dan Werner) at PF, and Speights/Kadji at C.</p>
<p>But if he consistently plays like he did last year, he&#8217;s benched.  </p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t be that big of a problem, though.
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		<title>by: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145149</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mareese is a gutless, heartless, energy vampire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mareese is a gutless, heartless, energy vampire.
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		<title>by: GatorPilot</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145147</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145147</guid>
					<description>From what I can tell, the coaching staff loves Jai.  And don't forget this was a team which -- being honest here -- pretty much sucked at times last season, and there was only so much a frosh PG could do.  That being said, I certainly agree that things often seemed to grind to a halt when Lucas ran the point, not due to turnovers or anything of that nature, but that the offense never really seemed to get in gear and stay there.

I expect Lucas to have a much improved sophomore season, much like Taurean Green, one of the best points ever at Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can tell, the coaching staff loves Jai.  And don&#8217;t forget this was a team which &#8212; being honest here &#8212; pretty much sucked at times last season, and there was only so much a frosh PG could do.  That being said, I certainly agree that things often seemed to grind to a halt when Lucas ran the point, not due to turnovers or anything of that nature, but that the offense never really seemed to get in gear and stay there.</p>
<p>I expect Lucas to have a much improved sophomore season, much like Taurean Green, one of the best points ever at Florida.
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		<title>by: Keltic Gator</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145112</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 02:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145112</guid>
					<description>Jai's freshman performance was better than former PGs such as Dan Cross, Eddie Shannon in their first seasons and about on par with Taurean Green.  

He could probably have Peep like freshman numbers if all he wanted to do was jack up the ball like Peep.  But there was a reason losing Anthony Roberson was addition by subtraction.  Jai isn't obsessed with his scoresheet.

After Lee Humphrey's freshman season people laughed at me and called me crazy when I predicted he would average around 8 pts a game as a jr and be a double digit scorer as a senior.  Now you can all laugh at me as I say that Lucus will be leading us deep into the NCAA tournament in his Jr and Sr season at UF.  And I don't mean he will be tagging along on the coattails of others.  I mean he will be the leader and heart of the team who will take the big shot when it's needed.  Mark my words, he's the key to future championships for Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jai&#8217;s freshman performance was better than former PGs such as Dan Cross, Eddie Shannon in their first seasons and about on par with Taurean Green.  </p>
<p>He could probably have Peep like freshman numbers if all he wanted to do was jack up the ball like Peep.  But there was a reason losing Anthony Roberson was addition by subtraction.  Jai isn&#8217;t obsessed with his scoresheet.</p>
<p>After Lee Humphrey&#8217;s freshman season people laughed at me and called me crazy when I predicted he would average around 8 pts a game as a jr and be a double digit scorer as a senior.  Now you can all laugh at me as I say that Lucus will be leading us deep into the NCAA tournament in his Jr and Sr season at UF.  And I don&#8217;t mean he will be tagging along on the coattails of others.  I mean he will be the leader and heart of the team who will take the big shot when it&#8217;s needed.  Mark my words, he&#8217;s the key to future championships for Florida.
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		<title>by: Vince Gagliano</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145109</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145109</guid>
					<description>Oh well, each basketball player is different.

But on the flip side, Chandler Parsons was actually pretty good for the Gators.

Next year, he should tie up the 3 nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, each basketball player is different.</p>
<p>But on the flip side, Chandler Parsons was actually pretty good for the Gators.</p>
<p>Next year, he should tie up the 3 nicely.
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		<title>by: The Fake Gimel Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145108</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145108</guid>
					<description>Very interesting. And yeah, it seemed to me that Jai was hurting you guys a lot at the end of SEC conference play. But such is life when you have a freshman PG. Hopefully Jai will better fulfill his potential next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. And yeah, it seemed to me that Jai was hurting you guys a lot at the end of SEC conference play. But such is life when you have a freshman PG. Hopefully Jai will better fulfill his potential next year.
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		<title>by: Vince Gagliano</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145085</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145085</guid>
					<description>Besides, I took the 40/48 disrepancy into account.

It's just that it didn't make sense for me to multiply the WP48 by 5/6, and then divide up the minutes into chunks of 40 and come up with the same exact answer.  So I left the WP48 alone and divided up the minutes into chucks of 48.

But just so you know, the WP40s are:

M. Speights = .331
N. Calathes = .203
C. Parsons = .168
D. Werner = .117
W. Hodge = .085
A. Tyus = .054
J. Mitchell = .008
J. Lucas = -.013
A. Allen = -.022

.083 is average, .167 is good, and .250 is excellent.

For WP48, that's .100, .200, and .300, respectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, I took the 40/48 disrepancy into account.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that it didn&#8217;t make sense for me to multiply the WP48 by 5/6, and then divide up the minutes into chunks of 40 and come up with the same exact answer.  So I left the WP48 alone and divided up the minutes into chucks of 48.</p>
<p>But just so you know, the WP40s are:</p>
<p>M. Speights = .331<br />
N. Calathes = .203<br />
C. Parsons = .168<br />
D. Werner = .117<br />
W. Hodge = .085<br />
A. Tyus = .054<br />
J. Mitchell = .008<br />
J. Lucas = -.013<br />
A. Allen = -.022</p>
<p>.083 is average, .167 is good, and .250 is excellent.</p>
<p>For WP48, that&#8217;s .100, .200, and .300, respectively.
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		<title>by: Vince Gagliano</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145082</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145082</guid>
					<description>Good points, MLM, but do note:

1: The formula places less of an emphasis on scoring than normal.  Consider the efficiency of the aforementioned:

M. Speights: 23.9 PP40
N. Calathes: 18.8 PP40
C. Parsons: 15.8 PP40
D. Werner: 13.3 PP40
W. Hodge: 13.6 PP40
A. Tyus: 13.5 PP40
J. Mitchell: 10.9 PP40
A. Allen: 15.4 PP40
J. Lucas: 11.2 PP40

In general, the effiency actually lines up pretty well with the overall productivity of the players as a whole.

But what to make of Allen, who is the Gators' 4th most efficient scorer, but its worst producer per minute?  On average, he only grabs one rebound per 13 minutes of play.  Yes, 13 minutes!  In that same span of time, Parsons would have grabbed about 2.5 rebounds, or Mitchell 2.  And Parsons plays the same exact position!

Also, note that Lucas and Allen, ironically enough, were 1st and 2nd in 3PT%.  So merely following the Billyball plan offensively doesn't always work.  Just ask the Phoenix Suns or Denver Nuggets.

I agree, these formulae aren't perfect.  But they help provide valuable insight into who helped the Gators and who didn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, MLM, but do note:</p>
<p>1: The formula places less of an emphasis on scoring than normal.  Consider the efficiency of the aforementioned:</p>
<p>M. Speights: 23.9 PP40<br />
N. Calathes: 18.8 PP40<br />
C. Parsons: 15.8 PP40<br />
D. Werner: 13.3 PP40<br />
W. Hodge: 13.6 PP40<br />
A. Tyus: 13.5 PP40<br />
J. Mitchell: 10.9 PP40<br />
A. Allen: 15.4 PP40<br />
J. Lucas: 11.2 PP40</p>
<p>In general, the effiency actually lines up pretty well with the overall productivity of the players as a whole.</p>
<p>But what to make of Allen, who is the Gators&#8217; 4th most efficient scorer, but its worst producer per minute?  On average, he only grabs one rebound per 13 minutes of play.  Yes, 13 minutes!  In that same span of time, Parsons would have grabbed about 2.5 rebounds, or Mitchell 2.  And Parsons plays the same exact position!</p>
<p>Also, note that Lucas and Allen, ironically enough, were 1st and 2nd in 3PT%.  So merely following the Billyball plan offensively doesn&#8217;t always work.  Just ask the Phoenix Suns or Denver Nuggets.</p>
<p>I agree, these formulae aren&#8217;t perfect.  But they help provide valuable insight into who helped the Gators and who didn&#8217;t.
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		<title>by: mlmintampa</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/13/why-this-guy-cost-the-gators-a-bid/#comment-145068</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You have to adjust the formula for the 40 minute game, shorter three-point line (more players with 3 range), and foul limit. I think if you look at efficiency (points per 40), Speights is still tops, but it throws off everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to adjust the formula for the 40 minute game, shorter three-point line (more players with 3 range), and foul limit. I think if you look at efficiency (points per 40), Speights is still tops, but it throws off everyone else.
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