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	<title>Comments on: EA Sports Likes Some Gators, Also Likes Some Crappy Team&#8217;s Players Too Much</title>
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		<title>by: Vince Gagliano</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The only thing is, can he temper that enough to complete West Coast-style short passes with consistency?

Joe Montana didn't gun it down the field, but he was very accurate, especially in quarter 4.

And as much as I hate to bring him up, Rex Grossman...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing is, can he temper that enough to complete West Coast-style short passes with consistency?</p>
<p>Joe Montana didn&#8217;t gun it down the field, but he was very accurate, especially in quarter 4.</p>
<p>And as much as I hate to bring him up, Rex Grossman&#8230;
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		<title>by: skigator93</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Don't forget the strength stat when comparing Tebow and Wells. I don't know what Wells can push, but Tebow reps 225 like an offensive tackle. His stregth numbers are unheard of for a QB. That transpates to ridiculous power on the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the strength stat when comparing Tebow and Wells. I don&#8217;t know what Wells can push, but Tebow reps 225 like an offensive tackle. His stregth numbers are unheard of for a QB. That transpates to ridiculous power on the field.
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		<title>by: Wil</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gatorpilot, if anyone took it that I was implying that Tebow was slow then I apologize.  In no way do I think that.  He is fast compared to most RB’s and blazing compared to most QB’s.  Do me a favor though and just watch the national championship game over again.  Wells has several runs where he is knocking people backwards and a particular play in which he stiff arms a LSU DB so bad that he is airborne and falls 3 -5 yards backwards.

I do agree that Wells does get more of a “big a head of steam” than Tebow.  However in the same sense, linebackers also get more of a “big a head of steam” at Wells when they realize that it is a run play.  The fact is they cannot do this against Tebow (nor should they) or he will kill them because he is very under-rated as a passer.

As to where the running game was….it was there….the coaches went away from it for some reason…..and as a fan who was actually at the game….no one in the stands could figure out why.  If you look at the stats, Wells got well over the majority of his carries in the 1st 20-25 minutes and then they decided to air it out.

I also do agree that Wells did have some crappy competition, however if you look at his overall game stats…..he did his best work against the best competition.

P.S. when you’re watching that wicked stiff arm he puts on the LSU DB, try to remember that he had a broken bone in that hand he was stiffarming the DB with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gatorpilot, if anyone took it that I was implying that Tebow was slow then I apologize.  In no way do I think that.  He is fast compared to most RB’s and blazing compared to most QB’s.  Do me a favor though and just watch the national championship game over again.  Wells has several runs where he is knocking people backwards and a particular play in which he stiff arms a LSU DB so bad that he is airborne and falls 3 -5 yards backwards.</p>
<p>I do agree that Wells does get more of a “big a head of steam” than Tebow.  However in the same sense, linebackers also get more of a “big a head of steam” at Wells when they realize that it is a run play.  The fact is they cannot do this against Tebow (nor should they) or he will kill them because he is very under-rated as a passer.</p>
<p>As to where the running game was….it was there….the coaches went away from it for some reason…..and as a fan who was actually at the game….no one in the stands could figure out why.  If you look at the stats, Wells got well over the majority of his carries in the 1st 20-25 minutes and then they decided to air it out.</p>
<p>I also do agree that Wells did have some crappy competition, however if you look at his overall game stats…..he did his best work against the best competition.</p>
<p>P.S. when you’re watching that wicked stiff arm he puts on the LSU DB, try to remember that he had a broken bone in that hand he was stiffarming the DB with.
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		<title>by: GatorPilot</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/20/ea-sports-likes-some-gators-also-likes-some-crappy-teams-players-too-much/#comment-146422</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wil, I respect your take on this.  You are a very objective and well-reasoned OSU fan and your opinion carries weight with me.  I did watch roughly 70% of OSU's games last year and overall Wells was impressive... although most of the competition was not really at an elite level (and I'm sure you'd agree.)

I do think Tebow is a tougher runner.  Maybe not as hard-hitting (?) and he's obviously not a super-speedster, but at 4.5 he's far from slow.  In my opinion he is tougher to bring down whether you look at him as a QB, RB, or FB.  Tebow faces a very different defensive look as a QB than Wells does as a HB and Tebow doesn't usually get as big a head of steam as a guy like Wells does running out of single-back or I-form.  I just haven't seen many players in college with Tebow's sheer strength and ability to drag DBs.  He is a rare combination of power, agility, and skill; he outlifts the offensive linemen, wrestles with the linebackers (and wins his fair share), runs a legitimate 4.5 and can feather-touch a 50-yard pass into the back corner of endzone.  That's a one-in-a-million combination.

I've watched Wells enough times to feel like I can make an educated comparison but perhaps I'm missing some important footage.

Compare some of Tebow's runs against ultra-athletic SEC teams and then look at Wells vs. LSU.  He had that great long run early in the game but where was the power running game when OSU needed it against a very physical defense?  It didn't overly impress me.

So for now I'm saying I respectfully disagree, but I'm willing to look at more evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wil, I respect your take on this.  You are a very objective and well-reasoned OSU fan and your opinion carries weight with me.  I did watch roughly 70% of OSU&#8217;s games last year and overall Wells was impressive&#8230; although most of the competition was not really at an elite level (and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d agree.)</p>
<p>I do think Tebow is a tougher runner.  Maybe not as hard-hitting (?) and he&#8217;s obviously not a super-speedster, but at 4.5 he&#8217;s far from slow.  In my opinion he is tougher to bring down whether you look at him as a QB, RB, or FB.  Tebow faces a very different defensive look as a QB than Wells does as a HB and Tebow doesn&#8217;t usually get as big a head of steam as a guy like Wells does running out of single-back or I-form.  I just haven&#8217;t seen many players in college with Tebow&#8217;s sheer strength and ability to drag DBs.  He is a rare combination of power, agility, and skill; he outlifts the offensive linemen, wrestles with the linebackers (and wins his fair share), runs a legitimate 4.5 and can feather-touch a 50-yard pass into the back corner of endzone.  That&#8217;s a one-in-a-million combination.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve watched Wells enough times to feel like I can make an educated comparison but perhaps I&#8217;m missing some important footage.</p>
<p>Compare some of Tebow&#8217;s runs against ultra-athletic SEC teams and then look at Wells vs. LSU.  He had that great long run early in the game but where was the power running game when OSU needed it against a very physical defense?  It didn&#8217;t overly impress me.</p>
<p>So for now I&#8217;m saying I respectfully disagree, but I&#8217;m willing to look at more evidence.
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		<title>by: Wil</title>
		<link>http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2008/05/20/ea-sports-likes-some-gators-also-likes-some-crappy-teams-players-too-much/#comment-146412</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Make fun of Ohio all you want URBANISAGOD. However, it's a shame that you had to get a coach from OHIO to help you win your last NC.

Gatorpilot, we are not talking about Wells running by people.  We are talking about him running over people and having a wicked sick stiff arm.  While you’re casting stones about tOSU fans not watching Tebow....you probably should have watched Wells a little more often.  He repeatedly runs people over and/or stiff arms them out of the way.  Look at the facts: Tebow is taller and weighs the same amount, Beanie is slightly faster (according to 40 times), and on the eye test Wells has probably less body fat and more muscle mass than Tebow (that is not a knock on Tebow, that is just the nature of QB's and RB's).
Gatorpilot I normally think you’re pretty realistic about things....but this one is really killing me...you’re basically saying you think Tebow is the hardest hitting runner in the NCAA.  That is a ridiculous comment....please go watch some Beanie Wells Highlights on youtube where he is running people over, stiff arming an LSU defender to the point where he is airborne, and having a defender bounce off of him (Washington I think, not sure though) while he kept on &quot;trucking.&quot;

I do believe that Tebow is the hardest QB to take down head to head and probably harder to take down head to head than the majority of  RB’s in college football…..but there are several RB’s that are harder to take down than him…and some of them are harder to take down than Beanie also.  It’s not a knock on Tebow it’s just the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make fun of Ohio all you want URBANISAGOD. However, it&#8217;s a shame that you had to get a coach from OHIO to help you win your last NC.</p>
<p>Gatorpilot, we are not talking about Wells running by people.  We are talking about him running over people and having a wicked sick stiff arm.  While you’re casting stones about tOSU fans not watching Tebow&#8230;.you probably should have watched Wells a little more often.  He repeatedly runs people over and/or stiff arms them out of the way.  Look at the facts: Tebow is taller and weighs the same amount, Beanie is slightly faster (according to 40 times), and on the eye test Wells has probably less body fat and more muscle mass than Tebow (that is not a knock on Tebow, that is just the nature of QB&#8217;s and RB&#8217;s).<br />
Gatorpilot I normally think you’re pretty realistic about things&#8230;.but this one is really killing me&#8230;you’re basically saying you think Tebow is the hardest hitting runner in the NCAA.  That is a ridiculous comment&#8230;.please go watch some Beanie Wells Highlights on youtube where he is running people over, stiff arming an LSU defender to the point where he is airborne, and having a defender bounce off of him (Washington I think, not sure though) while he kept on &#8220;trucking.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do believe that Tebow is the hardest QB to take down head to head and probably harder to take down head to head than the majority of  RB’s in college football…..but there are several RB’s that are harder to take down than him…and some of them are harder to take down than Beanie also.  It’s not a knock on Tebow it’s just the truth.
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		<title>by: skigator93</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Welcome to all you Buckeyes out there - it is extremely refreshing to read about something on here other than UK basketball!!

You have to remember that these games are always a year behind- so Moody and Rainey are probably not even in the game....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to all you Buckeyes out there - it is extremely refreshing to read about something on here other than UK basketball!!</p>
<p>You have to remember that these games are always a year behind- so Moody and Rainey are probably not even in the game&#8230;.
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		<title>by: urbanisagod</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Say what you will about the illustrious wells, TT's touchdowns says it all. Don't give me the threat of the pass, they knew what he was going to do and uninjured, did it better than anyone. When Beanie gets a Heisman, talk, until then.....shhhhh. 

And btw, why are we arguing with tOwnedSU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you will about the illustrious wells, TT&#8217;s touchdowns says it all. Don&#8217;t give me the threat of the pass, they knew what he was going to do and uninjured, did it better than anyone. When Beanie gets a Heisman, talk, until then&#8230;..shhhhh. </p>
<p>And btw, why are we arguing with tOwnedSU?
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		<title>by: GatorPilot</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, I think Nick must not have watched a lot of Gator games.  As an example -- and this kind of thing has of course happened many times, not just occasionally -- Tebow was tackled by LaRon Landry (now an NFL safety) in his freshman year ('06).  Tebow dragged Landry 5 yards and then used his body to knock down LSU's *other* safety, also an All-American.  He then spun free and almost danced into the endzone except an outstretched hand on the ground grabbed his ankle and tripped him.  It was an incredible play, and there's no chance Beanie Wells has that in him.  None.

Tebow trucks through people like nobody in the game -- except maybe LSU's Jacob Hester.  Beanie Wells is a great running back and I'd take him any day of the week on our team, but he's definitely not as difficult to bring down as Tim Tebow.  I'm really quite amused that OSU fans think otherwise.  It has to be a lack of exposure to Tebow's running feats.  The guy definitely stands alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think Nick must not have watched a lot of Gator games.  As an example &#8212; and this kind of thing has of course happened many times, not just occasionally &#8212; Tebow was tackled by LaRon Landry (now an NFL safety) in his freshman year (&#8217;06).  Tebow dragged Landry 5 yards and then used his body to knock down LSU&#8217;s *other* safety, also an All-American.  He then spun free and almost danced into the endzone except an outstretched hand on the ground grabbed his ankle and tripped him.  It was an incredible play, and there&#8217;s no chance Beanie Wells has that in him.  None.</p>
<p>Tebow trucks through people like nobody in the game &#8212; except maybe LSU&#8217;s Jacob Hester.  Beanie Wells is a great running back and I&#8217;d take him any day of the week on our team, but he&#8217;s definitely not as difficult to bring down as Tim Tebow.  I&#8217;m really quite amused that OSU fans think otherwise.  It has to be a lack of exposure to Tebow&#8217;s running feats.  The guy definitely stands alone.
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		<title>by: Gator Boys</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 06:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>are=and. obviously.  my bad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are=and. obviously.  my bad
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		<title>by: Gator Boys</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 06:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I dont know what you OSU fans are thinking... Wells running by people are Tebow running over people are completely different  Nobody is saying Tim is faster than Chris Wells, we're saying he is stronger/tougher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know what you OSU fans are thinking&#8230; Wells running by people are Tebow running over people are completely different  Nobody is saying Tim is faster than Chris Wells, we&#8217;re saying he is stronger/tougher.
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